Lara F
Apr 2, 03:23 PM
Considering it runs like crap on Android from what I have read there is no way as long as steve is around that will go in an iOS.
http://gigaom.com/video/video-flash-on-android-is-startlingly-bad/
Use Skyfire if you really need it I sure don't miss Flash. :D
And plenty of people who have Droids are happy with their Flash.
Posters here like to cite the average consumer. Well, I submit the average consumers have no negative pov towards Flash (or rather no opinions either way) and while not having it isn't going to keep them from buying iPads/iPhones they'd take it if given the choice.
http://gigaom.com/video/video-flash-on-android-is-startlingly-bad/
Use Skyfire if you really need it I sure don't miss Flash. :D
And plenty of people who have Droids are happy with their Flash.
Posters here like to cite the average consumer. Well, I submit the average consumers have no negative pov towards Flash (or rather no opinions either way) and while not having it isn't going to keep them from buying iPads/iPhones they'd take it if given the choice.
Fotek2001
Nov 3, 07:30 AM
The amount of crap in this thread is amazing:
1) Flash could never be a normal 'App' because it has to operate as a plugin for Safari since it's not a stand alone product on its own. For this reason, it would at the very least HAVE to be co-developed by Apple and included in a software update.
2) The primary reason Apple don't want to allow Flash, Java or any other runtime environment on the iPhone is because it would mean that developers would be able to bypass the App Store and Apple's own development tools. This would weaken the entire platform because there would be less incentive to develop native iPhone applications. It would also have the consequence of handing control over part of the entire platform to a third party - imagine if Adobe decided to stop producing Flash for the iPhone. Where would that leave Apple?
3) The Mac and PC versions of Flash differ because the underlying operating systems are fundamentally different particularly in how they handle hardware graphics acceleration. Blame for the poor performance of Flash on Mac OS X has to lie primarily with Adobe because they produce the software and Mac OS X includes very solid, highly optimised 2D and 3D graphics APIs.
4) Flash video using the older Sorenson and On2 codecs will not play properly on any current mobile device because there is no hardware optimisation for those codecs. Only video based on H.264 has broad hardware acceleration support (including the iPhone) so even if Adobe and Apple did bring Flash to the iPhone, it still wouldn't solve all the video problems.
1) Flash could never be a normal 'App' because it has to operate as a plugin for Safari since it's not a stand alone product on its own. For this reason, it would at the very least HAVE to be co-developed by Apple and included in a software update.
2) The primary reason Apple don't want to allow Flash, Java or any other runtime environment on the iPhone is because it would mean that developers would be able to bypass the App Store and Apple's own development tools. This would weaken the entire platform because there would be less incentive to develop native iPhone applications. It would also have the consequence of handing control over part of the entire platform to a third party - imagine if Adobe decided to stop producing Flash for the iPhone. Where would that leave Apple?
3) The Mac and PC versions of Flash differ because the underlying operating systems are fundamentally different particularly in how they handle hardware graphics acceleration. Blame for the poor performance of Flash on Mac OS X has to lie primarily with Adobe because they produce the software and Mac OS X includes very solid, highly optimised 2D and 3D graphics APIs.
4) Flash video using the older Sorenson and On2 codecs will not play properly on any current mobile device because there is no hardware optimisation for those codecs. Only video based on H.264 has broad hardware acceleration support (including the iPhone) so even if Adobe and Apple did bring Flash to the iPhone, it still wouldn't solve all the video problems.
Unspeaked
Aug 8, 02:06 PM
I can offer a reason as to why some Mac Pro models don't have BT or Airport Extreme, a great deal of the corporate market don't want their machines to be equipped with them.
The company I work for will not purchase any machine with Bluetooth as it represents a risk to our highly confidential data. We could not allow a security vulnerability in a Bluetooth stack to allow security to be compormised or indeed just a rogue employee using BT to transfer data to a cell phone or other device.
Same goes for WiFi, although for some reason we don't see that as being that high a threat (Hey I don't make the rules I just have to follow them!)
This could be why the top end model is sans Bluetooth and WiFi, to keep the Corporate market sweet.
Just my 2 cents anyways:D
I've worked with several companies in this same situation.
It's the same reason I doubt we'll see Cinema Displays with built-in iSights.
The company I work for will not purchase any machine with Bluetooth as it represents a risk to our highly confidential data. We could not allow a security vulnerability in a Bluetooth stack to allow security to be compormised or indeed just a rogue employee using BT to transfer data to a cell phone or other device.
Same goes for WiFi, although for some reason we don't see that as being that high a threat (Hey I don't make the rules I just have to follow them!)
This could be why the top end model is sans Bluetooth and WiFi, to keep the Corporate market sweet.
Just my 2 cents anyways:D
I've worked with several companies in this same situation.
It's the same reason I doubt we'll see Cinema Displays with built-in iSights.
ciTiger
May 5, 05:41 AM
Automatic, without user authentication would not make sense. Apple has never issued updates or installed anything without user interaction. That would open the OS up to security risks. So, it wont be automatic.
Over 3G? No thank you. Wireless on WiFi is fine.
Automatic as in do now or do later but must do until a certain time has passed.
Given their firmware signing they must have something like that...
Over 3G? No thank you. Wireless on WiFi is fine.
Automatic as in do now or do later but must do until a certain time has passed.
Given their firmware signing they must have something like that...
junkster
Nov 7, 12:05 PM
Would you buy a CD MB the day the C2D comes out for $700
No. It isn't worth pinching pennies when it comes to notebooks. I'd gladly pay the extra to get something that runs significantly cooler (which apparently is the case with the new MBPs).
No. It isn't worth pinching pennies when it comes to notebooks. I'd gladly pay the extra to get something that runs significantly cooler (which apparently is the case with the new MBPs).
lostngone
Mar 28, 11:48 PM
That is just sad. It's a developer conference, not a media event (it just happens to have one at the start when Apple shows off all the new software). I wouldn't go to WWDC even if I was given free tickets because I couldn't benefit from the conference as much as a real developer (I doubt messing around with XCode for fun counts). Trying to resell tickets like that hurts the platform.
It is only 2 so far so it hasn't evolved into a major scalping problem just yet.
Maybe a dev that was away from the net for half a day really needed to go and missed registration.
I know after last year, I didn't dare wait however if work had been really busy today I wouldn't have had a chance to register in time.
It is only 2 so far so it hasn't evolved into a major scalping problem just yet.
Maybe a dev that was away from the net for half a day really needed to go and missed registration.
I know after last year, I didn't dare wait however if work had been really busy today I wouldn't have had a chance to register in time.
NiteWaves77
Nov 13, 12:40 PM
It's a shame the scenario played out this way. Joe's Facebook app is brilliantly crafted, easily the best (imperfections and all).
But I'm disappointed that he's thrown his arms up and decided to give up. To me, this is akin to the weak willed who threaten to leave the US when a regime philosophically detestable to them come into power. So you'd rather run away with your tail between your legs than stick around and strong arm your commanders into a compromise?
Hewitt, if Facebook had the cojones to support him, could have been the spark in the room of dynamite Cocoa Touch developers needed to convey to Apple that their review process has got to dematerialize. Or, at the very least, turn the austerity knob down from "11". The Facebook app is high profile and an 800lb gorilla. That's leverage to be used.
But Hewitt has his own agenda, and Zuckerburg's too busy picking his toe cheese to care, apparently.
But I'm disappointed that he's thrown his arms up and decided to give up. To me, this is akin to the weak willed who threaten to leave the US when a regime philosophically detestable to them come into power. So you'd rather run away with your tail between your legs than stick around and strong arm your commanders into a compromise?
Hewitt, if Facebook had the cojones to support him, could have been the spark in the room of dynamite Cocoa Touch developers needed to convey to Apple that their review process has got to dematerialize. Or, at the very least, turn the austerity knob down from "11". The Facebook app is high profile and an 800lb gorilla. That's leverage to be used.
But Hewitt has his own agenda, and Zuckerburg's too busy picking his toe cheese to care, apparently.
calzon65
Nov 3, 09:52 AM
Apple is a self absorbed organization that loves to publically bash other companies like Microsoft for not being responsive, open, hip, etc., then when it comes to incorporating a technology that people want/need, they drag the butts, remain non responsive and basically do nothing. I applaud Adobe for throwing this right back in Apple's face.
ChrisA
Aug 2, 05:40 PM
...all they have to do is limit the control granted via the card..
What? How to do that? This is likely a buffer overflow exploit where a small part of the driver gets overwritten with hacker-incerted code, this code then runs inside the kernel at that point nothing can be done.
They will have to fix the defect that alowed the buffer to overflow. No other option.
This really shows the value of Open Source. So many peopl have loked for this type of stuff in Linux and other OSes that I'm sure most of it is been found and fixed but closed souce drivers are so hard to examine that there could be a hundred more of these waiting to be discovered.
What? How to do that? This is likely a buffer overflow exploit where a small part of the driver gets overwritten with hacker-incerted code, this code then runs inside the kernel at that point nothing can be done.
They will have to fix the defect that alowed the buffer to overflow. No other option.
This really shows the value of Open Source. So many peopl have loked for this type of stuff in Linux and other OSes that I'm sure most of it is been found and fixed but closed souce drivers are so hard to examine that there could be a hundred more of these waiting to be discovered.
pkson
Apr 13, 07:50 PM
I just watched a video of the demo, and it's orgasmic.
I'm definitely getting this when it comes out.
I'm definitely getting this when it comes out.
mBox
Apr 15, 12:28 AM
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If you think about it, it's not all too surprising that some of these "professionals" are getting so worked up and sulky over this release. The notion that "pro editing" can belong to just about anyone, rather than an exclusive circle of elites, poses an existential crisis. Apple's re-thinking of editing is also a re-thinking of what it means to be "professional". The announcement sheds light on a future in which their "advanced", learned techniques are no longer advantageous. The "industry pros" are facing the plight of impending impotence. It's not something anyone would really openly admit, but I think they're feeling a bit naked, stripped of their status.
Who can blame them for being pissy?being one of them, I can honestly say were just a bunch of jaded ***** ;)
Yea this is old news to me. I was there when FCP first came out and the Premiere/Media100 folks were in a tiff about Apple getting to close to the mid-range cause then Avid was around 100k for a turn-key system.
its old news, everyone likes to complain.
I was at the SuperMeet still fresh from hearing Avid and Kevin Smith lovefest.
I did not see that demo coming ;)
I was floored and cant wait to see what the future holds for all interfaces.
Please folks get off the iMovie already.
This new GUI reminds me of a lot of older/newer higher-end apps such as Resolve, Composer (SGI sad answer to After Effects), etc...
Its not iMovie unless you treat it like iMovie :P
If you think about it, it's not all too surprising that some of these "professionals" are getting so worked up and sulky over this release. The notion that "pro editing" can belong to just about anyone, rather than an exclusive circle of elites, poses an existential crisis. Apple's re-thinking of editing is also a re-thinking of what it means to be "professional". The announcement sheds light on a future in which their "advanced", learned techniques are no longer advantageous. The "industry pros" are facing the plight of impending impotence. It's not something anyone would really openly admit, but I think they're feeling a bit naked, stripped of their status.
Who can blame them for being pissy?being one of them, I can honestly say were just a bunch of jaded ***** ;)
Yea this is old news to me. I was there when FCP first came out and the Premiere/Media100 folks were in a tiff about Apple getting to close to the mid-range cause then Avid was around 100k for a turn-key system.
its old news, everyone likes to complain.
I was at the SuperMeet still fresh from hearing Avid and Kevin Smith lovefest.
I did not see that demo coming ;)
I was floored and cant wait to see what the future holds for all interfaces.
Please folks get off the iMovie already.
This new GUI reminds me of a lot of older/newer higher-end apps such as Resolve, Composer (SGI sad answer to After Effects), etc...
Its not iMovie unless you treat it like iMovie :P
NT1440
Mar 10, 07:06 PM
We have to raise taxes, and cut our military spending first and foremost. I say cut military before benefits because those benefits are the only thing keeping millions of our people from being third world status poor.
ruy
Sep 26, 10:12 AM
Nobody can stop the tide of technology, not even Walmart.
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toddybody
Mar 28, 11:54 AM
...and they showed one of the 'good' retailers, costco, the door.
costco ftw!!!!!
costco ftw!!!!!
gri
Mar 22, 11:18 AM
Your wife said 'no'?
You know, this is a question that I've been wanting to ask for a long time, and this is not directed only at you, but to all responses similar to yours I've seen on such topics. It's an honest question I have, because it just blows my mind:
[...]
This is honestly something that Id like an answer to. Some of you seem to have a 'child/parent' relationship, instead of husband/wife. If she's the breadwinner of the house, and you mooch of her, fine I'd understand. But if you bring in the $$? Sounds like a disturbing and cold relationship. Why does she get to dominate you and dictate your decisions, void of any debate or discussion?
If you have shared responsibilities e.g. to send the kids to school (not realy cheap where I am), which takes a consierablen slap out of the salary, certain purchases might not be considered really important/essential for the family's well-being by the significant other (compared to lets sayspending the money for new clothes for the kid or a family trip). I still do it but tell her after the fact with a good justification (if possible). Works most of the time (and I am screwed if it doesn't).
I take it you are not married or in a serious long term relationship...?
You know, this is a question that I've been wanting to ask for a long time, and this is not directed only at you, but to all responses similar to yours I've seen on such topics. It's an honest question I have, because it just blows my mind:
[...]
This is honestly something that Id like an answer to. Some of you seem to have a 'child/parent' relationship, instead of husband/wife. If she's the breadwinner of the house, and you mooch of her, fine I'd understand. But if you bring in the $$? Sounds like a disturbing and cold relationship. Why does she get to dominate you and dictate your decisions, void of any debate or discussion?
If you have shared responsibilities e.g. to send the kids to school (not realy cheap where I am), which takes a consierablen slap out of the salary, certain purchases might not be considered really important/essential for the family's well-being by the significant other (compared to lets sayspending the money for new clothes for the kid or a family trip). I still do it but tell her after the fact with a good justification (if possible). Works most of the time (and I am screwed if it doesn't).
I take it you are not married or in a serious long term relationship...?
jpryde
Nov 28, 03:48 PM
I've been reading about every other post in this thread and as a long time Beatles fan, wanted to weigh in. I already own the entire Beatles catalog on CD and carry all their releases (minus "Live at the BBC" and a good number of tracks on the Anthologies) around with me on MP3 CD. I used to have it on iPod, but I got a shuffle and gave my 15GB to my wife. So, I have no need to purchase the music. Even if they remastered it, it would still be in 128kb AAC, and that would be a waste.
I would, however, buy a Beatles iPod in a second. Hell, I might even camp out at an Apple store for that. Some people here have said the band is old, and their time is over. I couldn't disagree more. Their music is as fresh as it was in the 60s. They completely changed the face of rock and roll and more importantly, the face of recording. Some of the things the band and George Martin did in the studio are groundbreaking. My list of favorite bands changes on a near daily basis, but the Beatles are always locked in at number 1 on that list. Their influence on modern artists is undeniable. I hear the influences in so many types of music, although that is disappearing with the garbage pawned off on the public as music these days.
I hope these rumors are true because I do think:
1) Apple Computer innovated computing and the music industry with the iPod and iTunes, just as the Beatles did.
2) The ads would be classic
3) The thought of McCartney and Ringo with Steve Jobs on the MacWorld stage makes me tingle with anticipation.
4) Apple Corps was created to breed and inspire creativity, and I think Apple computer does the same thing. It's a match made in heaven.
I would, however, buy a Beatles iPod in a second. Hell, I might even camp out at an Apple store for that. Some people here have said the band is old, and their time is over. I couldn't disagree more. Their music is as fresh as it was in the 60s. They completely changed the face of rock and roll and more importantly, the face of recording. Some of the things the band and George Martin did in the studio are groundbreaking. My list of favorite bands changes on a near daily basis, but the Beatles are always locked in at number 1 on that list. Their influence on modern artists is undeniable. I hear the influences in so many types of music, although that is disappearing with the garbage pawned off on the public as music these days.
I hope these rumors are true because I do think:
1) Apple Computer innovated computing and the music industry with the iPod and iTunes, just as the Beatles did.
2) The ads would be classic
3) The thought of McCartney and Ringo with Steve Jobs on the MacWorld stage makes me tingle with anticipation.
4) Apple Corps was created to breed and inspire creativity, and I think Apple computer does the same thing. It's a match made in heaven.
BC2009
Mar 18, 03:49 PM
lol... Comments are priceless:
No kidding -- kinda reads like the iPad comments from last year, except instead of six pages there are probably hundreds for iPad. Weird looking at those forum posts and not recognizing any of the posters and seeing some labeled as "guest".
Some guy named "Beholder of Truth" really nailed it on why the iPod would be revolutionary. People probably called him an "Apple Fanboy" or whatever the 2001 equivalent of that was (one guy called him a "Tool").
Very amusing reading those comments.
No kidding -- kinda reads like the iPad comments from last year, except instead of six pages there are probably hundreds for iPad. Weird looking at those forum posts and not recognizing any of the posters and seeing some labeled as "guest".
Some guy named "Beholder of Truth" really nailed it on why the iPod would be revolutionary. People probably called him an "Apple Fanboy" or whatever the 2001 equivalent of that was (one guy called him a "Tool").
Very amusing reading those comments.
kojiroshinkara
Mar 11, 04:56 PM
Why is he blaming it on us? Its "ultimate"ly his decision to use and post what information was given to him. He's the one that needs to decipher between good and bad tips. Not to just take anything anyone says as fact and then publish on his website.
I completely agree, but it seems as though he thought it truthful, or wanted to drum up more traffic to his site. Either way, it's not our fault he posted a fake tip, but rather, his and those who sent him the tips. However, to break the TOS here, then begin to discuss it, is a ban-worthy event.
Edit
Interesting. It seems as though the Mac Pro rumors are still considered legitimate, as 9to5 hasn't issued a retraction of those.
http://www.cultofmac.com/screaming-fast-new-macbook-pros-and-mac-pro-desktops-next-week/33232
I completely agree, but it seems as though he thought it truthful, or wanted to drum up more traffic to his site. Either way, it's not our fault he posted a fake tip, but rather, his and those who sent him the tips. However, to break the TOS here, then begin to discuss it, is a ban-worthy event.
Edit
Interesting. It seems as though the Mac Pro rumors are still considered legitimate, as 9to5 hasn't issued a retraction of those.
http://www.cultofmac.com/screaming-fast-new-macbook-pros-and-mac-pro-desktops-next-week/33232
ampd
Aug 3, 04:32 PM
it's called a macbook....:rolleyes:
people are not understanding that ALL products on the banner have already been released...
people are not understanding that ALL products on the banner have already been released...
CJM
Aug 3, 03:42 PM
In addition to my promise to run around naked and post the video to the Internet if iMac gets Conroe, I will do the same if they introduce a phone at WWDC.
Not happening.
Not that I want to see you naked or anything, but I really want a Conroe iMac. Been putting off the intel iMacs for 8 months waiting for this update.
Not happening.
Not that I want to see you naked or anything, but I really want a Conroe iMac. Been putting off the intel iMacs for 8 months waiting for this update.
KingYaba
Sep 23, 12:39 PM
The studios generally charge Wal-Mart a wholesale price of $17.95 for new DVDs, while Apple is paying Disney a wholesale price of about $14.50 per film, according to a studio source.
Go figure...
Go figure...
Frisco
Sep 6, 08:45 AM
I am seriously thinking of getting out of Windowsworld and the new 24" iMac looks great!:D
From the listed specs this will really rock.
Anybody have advice on whether I should wait for Leopard to come out or not?
Why wait? It's perfect! You'll drive yourself crazy waiting. It's like staring at a sizzling steak in front of your face, but deciding not to eat it until April!
From the listed specs this will really rock.
Anybody have advice on whether I should wait for Leopard to come out or not?
Why wait? It's perfect! You'll drive yourself crazy waiting. It's like staring at a sizzling steak in front of your face, but deciding not to eat it until April!
MacinDoc
Nov 7, 01:26 AM
My 2 cents: The MacBook are definitely going to be updated this month. Most likely tomorrow. Why do I think this? AppleInsider has reliable sources, they have never completely been wrong. The MacBooks will get Core 2 Duos (1.83, 2.0, 2.16), 802.11n cards, and possibly hard drive & RAM increase. Realistically we won't be getting a dedicated graphics card, bigger screens, or firewire 800.
Enjoying my Core 2 Duo MBP.
Precisely, except maybe not 2.16 GHz
Enjoying my Core 2 Duo MBP.
Precisely, except maybe not 2.16 GHz
parapup
May 5, 10:22 AM
And of course - Apple will be teh first OS manufacturer to ship OTA updates "in volumes". (Android OTAs are 60-70 Em Bees - iOS being superior ships 300+ Em Bees!)
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